I think some of you guys miss the point. The reason Bret refused to drop the belt to Shawn is because just a week before Survivor Bret told Shawn he would get him over…Shawns reply was ” Iappreciate , but i will NOT do the same for you.” It was not just a refusal by Bret. If the tide was turned does anybody really think Shawn would have put Bret over??? NO WAY
Quick correction on Rude. He wanted to boycott Raw, but wound up working the show. He then worked the Raw taping the following night. Back then Raw would be live every other week. They would go live on Monday and then tape the following week’s Raw on Tuesday. Rude left the company after the Tuesday Raw taping. And the following Monday November 17th, is when Rude showed up live on Nitro while appearing on the taped Raw on the same night.
Let’s not also forget how many westlers boycotted Raw the next night out of protest for what Vince did to Bret. Foley, Rude, Bulldog, Owen, Neidhart, Crush and a few other guys refused to show up and work the show. Rude ended up walkin out of the company the next week and showing up in Nitro(because Rude wasn’t under contract) and Bulldog asked for a release and was given it. Neidhart was given his release a few weeks later after he asked for it. Owen also asked for his released, but Vince didn’t give him one. He promised Owen a raise and big push if he stayed with the company. Crush was also allowed to leave. Taker was also very pissed at Vince. Backstage after Survivor Series went off the air, Vince locked himself in his office and Taker was banging on Vince’s door demanding him to go and apologize to Bret.
@Steven, just a correction, Bret didn’t refuse to lose the Title siply because it was in Canada, he refused to lose to Shawn! If the Survivor Series ’97 match was against Austin or Taker or anyone else but Shawn, Bret would’ve lost the Title to them. Bret refused to lose to Shawn because Shawn had flat out refused to lose to Bret earlier in the year and even told Bret to his face that he would never “lay down” for him, ever. So Bret invoked his creative control clause(again, Vince allowed Bret to have that clause in the first place) and said he’s not losing to Shawn. Bret was 100% in his right to do what he did.
@ Anonymous and all other Bret fans I want to take this time to bury the hatchet. Remember that time HBK and Stone Cold won the tag team titles from the Hart Foundation attacked HBK and Austin didn’t help after the match typical Austin but what an jerk Stone Cold was not to help lol.
Apology accepted, I never had a problem with Bret fans but there is two sides of the story but you don’t refuse to lose the title no matter where it is, look at what Randy did for the Miz even though I didn’t think Miz deserves to be champ but he was, hard work and patience paid off there for him good for him. I agree with you on one thing just think about if they did get along about what kind of matches they would’ve had. The Iron Man match was epic, the Ladder match was great between them. On Heartbreak and Triumph I loved what Triple H said when the room went silent with him, Shawn, Vince, Shane, Gerald Brisco, and Earl was talking about giving Brett the shaft F Him, don’t want to get kicked off this site because its a great site to talk wrestling with all the fans of WWE DVDS. That was a little harsh but money wise Bret was better off because WWE during that time was more attitude with DX and Stone Cold running things during that time. I miss those days so much now we got a dumb computer making matches and Michael Cole sucking ass.
CJ, looks like you only read half of what I wrote. Yes it is wrong to refuse to do business, but Shawn is the one who REFUSED TO DO BUSINESS! He refused to drop the Title to Bret at Mania 13! Second of all, Bret had full creative control in his contract! And Vince is the one that gave it to him! So Bret had every right to refuse to lose to Shawn because Vince allowed Bret that right in the first place. As for the story of Vince trying to “protect his company”, that was the BS excuse he tried to use afterwards. Remember, there was no way Bret could show up on Nitro the night after Survivor Series because Bret was still under contract until mid December and Bret would’ve been sued for breach of contract. It’s amazing how people will just completely overlook the facts when it goes against the story they’ve been force-fed for the last 13 years by WWE.
You also don’t fuck over your fellow wrestlers. Vince McMahon wrote a lot of the rules in wrestling but so did Stu Hart. So if anyone knew the values and traditions of wrestling it was Bret and its because he stuck to wrestling traditions that things unfolded how they did. Vince McMahon has been a success largely BECAUSE he broke away from traditions. So its pretty bloody outrageous to say that. Yes you protect business, you prtoect the company, you protect yourself and you protect each other. Bret did nothing wrong. He just refused to lose to the man ‘who lays down for absolutelt nobody’ on principle because he did value the wrestling traditions. They just didnt trust him because he was leaving in a months time, whereas he trusted them. Trust is what wrestling is all about. That night the WWF broke all the rules. They pulled the trigger when they didnt need to simply because Vince McMahon was worried WCW was going to kill the WWF. So from that point of view they were trying to achieve a legitimate aim, but the means of achieving it was completely disproportionate. Especially when the justification was business pressure and just over a month later Mike Tyson comes in for more money than you can write down. Put simply, the WWF story is bullshit and re-rewriting history is wrong no matter how much you love Vince and his creations. The wwe progaganda machine reminds me of Big Brother in George Orwell’s Nineteen Eighty Four. Update history everyday and destroy all previous versions of the truth. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
@Steven, there is no such thing as PG-14. It’s just TV-14.
@LP1, You also never refuse to do business in wrestling. Bret didn’t want to job to Shawn. Yeah Shawn was a dick, but that doesn’t mean you still don’t do what was called for and drop the belt.
Steven I apologise, I didnt need to be rude. I think Shawn and Bret are the 2 best ever and neither of them ever had a bad match (I’m not including Bret’s return after his stroke and post concussion syndrome). You shouldnt apologise for being a fan of his because he’s incredible. I just think you could be a little more objective. But thats what would make this DVD so fascinating because there really are two sides to a lot of things that went down between them. I’ve always been a huge Bret fan and I got to meet him a couple of years ago. It was always a bit annoying that they didnt get along because I wanted to be a fan of both of them. I don’t think any other rivalry would be a good DVD concept because most of them were friends in real life, but Bret and Shawn had it all. Even a happy ending. So hopefully bret and shawn fans can ‘bury the hatchet’ with this DVD and hopefully it will set the record straight on a few things. A lot of people might be sick of hearing about it, but this is probably the ultimate DVD for me. Peace.
Who’s to say the Stone Cold-Rock rivalry DVD is out the window? Perhaps this is the beginning of a new DVD series. Austin-Rock could come out later on down the road, perhaps by the time Rock returns to face Cena at Mania next year.
For people saying the Bret-Shawn Survivor Series ’92 match hasn’t been released on DVD yet, uhh, the entire Survivor Series ’92 ppv was released on DVD in the Survivor Series Anthology! lol
Also, anyone defending Shawn in the Montreal screwjob either A)doesn’t know the real story or B)is believing WWE’s(Vince’s) twisted version of the truth.
Shawn Michaels was supposed to drop the WWF Title to Bret at Mania 13, but ended up with a *cough* “knee injury”. Then when Shawn returned later that year he flat out told Bret that he would never do the job for him. So Bret said “screw you then”. By the time Survivor Series came around Vince asked Bret to lose to Shawn and Bret told Vince that he’d lose the Title to anyone else on the roster except Shawn. Remember that Vince was the one who gave Bret full creative control in his contract to keep Bret from going to WCW in 1996. So Bret had every legal right to refuse losing to Shawn. Bret’s WWF contract didn’t expire until mid December 1997 and told Vince that he’d lose the Title to Austin, Taker or whoever at the December In Your House ppv(which turned out to be the DX ppv). Vince agreed with that. But then Shawn and HHH got in Vince’s ear and lobbied their way into getting Vince to screw Bret out of the belt.
The plan was for Shawn to get Bret in the sharpshooter and Bret would reverse it. Just before Shawn would tap out, DX would run down and break it up and the Hart Foundation would run down and it would end in a no contest. Of course we all know what ended up happening after that. Then Vince went on Raw and did that ridiculous interview where he said he did what he did to “protect his company” so Bret wouldn’t show up in Nitro with the Title the night after Survivor Series. LOL. Of course that was such a BS story since Bret legally couldn’t show up in WCW for another month due to his WWF contract. Plus Bret already agreed to drop the belt at a later date. There’s no defending Vince or Shawn in this. No matter how you try to spin it.
I have seen shoot interviews from both Bret and HBK. What else could this actually offer. Most of their matches are already on other dvds. This is a huge disappointment.
At @ Anonymous I’m not sorry for being a Shawn Michaels fan but you got to admit he’s never had a less than 5 star match against anyone, what’s wrong with the Wrestlemania 12 Iron Man match, he won his first WWE title, I guess you didn’t like when Rock or The Miz won there first title also.
Really not bothered about this one in the slightest, unless they come out and say it was all a work it’s just going to be the same stories they’ve both already told repeated over. Plus half a disc wasted on that god awful ironman match again.
Every time I come on here there is a guy called Steven who thinks Shawn Michaels could do no wrong. I think you’ve been brainwashed. Its very convenient to ignore that Shawn Michaels ‘didn’t do business’ earlier that year. Its in the past obviously, but I can certianly see there are two sides to this and in that sense its bigger than any other rivalry. They may as well make some money out of the bad feelings of the past. Turn a negative into a positive if you will.
Here are a few of their matches off the top of my head:
1. Singles match when they were still in The Rockers and Hart Foundation (wrestling challenge I think)
2. Coliseum video match in 1992 (U.S. Rampage 92)
3. Coliseum video match in 1994
4. Coliseum video Cage Match
5. Survivor Series 1992
6. Survivor Series 1993 family feud match
7. Wrestlemania XII Iron man match
8. Survivor series 1997
9. Bret Hart & Macho Man Randy Savage vs. Shawn Michaels & Ric Flair
10. Hart Foundation vs. Rockers (SNME 1990)
11. Hart Foundation vs. Rockers (MSG)
12. Hart Foundation vs. Rockers (Coliseum video, Wrestlefest 1990)
13. Hart Foundation vs. Rockers (Japan)
14. Hart Foundation vs. Rockers (SNME that never aired)
15. Coliseum video Ladder match
and you can bet your bottom dollar there are countless confronations, face to face interviews, promos etc. It wont be hard to fill up a few discs with some great stuff.
Thats amazing. I hated the idea of a rivalry DVD. But this was REAL so its a whole different thing and since these are the two greatest that there have ever been this DVD could have literally everything. Man I’m excited. I really hope that Austin / Rock idea is in the bin. They should really just do a new documentary DVD for each Austin and Rock. Especially since they are both working with wwe now.
could be a greatest rivalries dvd and william both survivor series matches were released already on dvd with 97 being on Best of Confidential and 92 on Greatest Superstars of the 90’s
interview should be great and i would think they would put matchs on here so if im right its the first dvd release on there surviver series match if im correct
I bet this will be a TV PG 14 release, with DX’s antics back in the day and the Hitman going crazy and there is no longer beef with them but I say there is still some problems with them, I wonder if they are friends like the Kliq.
This will be a great dvd and I’m 100% behind Shawn in the Screwjob, Bret didn’t do business. I wonder if the dvd will have HBK on commentary talking crap about Bret’s dad and where he threw the banana in Bret’s face way back in the time of the best DX 1997. I say Brett is excited for this dvd also. Bret was a good wrestler but for me I always liked wrestlers who had attitude and charisma, examples, HBK, Stone Cold, Rock, Hall and Nash, Triple H, Jeff Hardy, Batista, Cena, Macho Man, AJ Styles, and Randy Orton.
This is huge. I love the Austin/Rock rivalry but that doesn’t hold a candle to HBK/Hitman. Their drama was not only in-ring but also backstage behind the scenes. This DVD is going to be amazing.
I WILL BE GLAD TO HAVE THE HBK\BRET RIVALRY DVD BUT I WAS REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO THE AUSTIN ROCK SET AS THIS IS WHEN I TRULY STARTED WATCHING WRESTLING HOPEFULLY WWE KEEPS THAT DVD IN THE WORKS OR GIVE IT AN EARLIER RELEASE DATE HERE IN THE US
If turns out to be true, sad to see Austin/Rock DVD go but quite frankly this is more juicy and the thought of in-depth sit down interviews with the two of them together sells it for me.
Sounds great. I can’t wait to hear the true stories of their relationship personally and professionally. I’m interested to hear their thoughts on some of the great matches they’ve had together and how their relationship backstage went to hate/hate….and of course stories about survivor series 1997. Also if they actually talk today or if their on screen makeup was kayfabe.
WOW!!! I would have loved to been a fly on the wall in that room when the cameras weren’t rolling Ross, HBK, Hitman there has to be some good stories being told in there.
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I think some of you guys miss the point. The reason Bret refused to drop the belt to Shawn is because just a week before Survivor Bret told Shawn he would get him over…Shawns reply was ” Iappreciate , but i will NOT do the same for you.” It was not just a refusal by Bret. If the tide was turned does anybody really think Shawn would have put Bret over??? NO WAY
Quick correction on Rude. He wanted to boycott Raw, but wound up working the show. He then worked the Raw taping the following night. Back then Raw would be live every other week. They would go live on Monday and then tape the following week’s Raw on Tuesday. Rude left the company after the Tuesday Raw taping. And the following Monday November 17th, is when Rude showed up live on Nitro while appearing on the taped Raw on the same night.
Let’s not also forget how many westlers boycotted Raw the next night out of protest for what Vince did to Bret. Foley, Rude, Bulldog, Owen, Neidhart, Crush and a few other guys refused to show up and work the show. Rude ended up walkin out of the company the next week and showing up in Nitro(because Rude wasn’t under contract) and Bulldog asked for a release and was given it. Neidhart was given his release a few weeks later after he asked for it. Owen also asked for his released, but Vince didn’t give him one. He promised Owen a raise and big push if he stayed with the company. Crush was also allowed to leave. Taker was also very pissed at Vince. Backstage after Survivor Series went off the air, Vince locked himself in his office and Taker was banging on Vince’s door demanding him to go and apologize to Bret.
@Steven, just a correction, Bret didn’t refuse to lose the Title siply because it was in Canada, he refused to lose to Shawn! If the Survivor Series ’97 match was against Austin or Taker or anyone else but Shawn, Bret would’ve lost the Title to them. Bret refused to lose to Shawn because Shawn had flat out refused to lose to Bret earlier in the year and even told Bret to his face that he would never “lay down” for him, ever. So Bret invoked his creative control clause(again, Vince allowed Bret to have that clause in the first place) and said he’s not losing to Shawn. Bret was 100% in his right to do what he did.
@ Anonymous and all other Bret fans I want to take this time to bury the hatchet. Remember that time HBK and Stone Cold won the tag team titles from the Hart Foundation attacked HBK and Austin didn’t help after the match typical Austin but what an jerk Stone Cold was not to help lol.
Apology accepted, I never had a problem with Bret fans but there is two sides of the story but you don’t refuse to lose the title no matter where it is, look at what Randy did for the Miz even though I didn’t think Miz deserves to be champ but he was, hard work and patience paid off there for him good for him. I agree with you on one thing just think about if they did get along about what kind of matches they would’ve had. The Iron Man match was epic, the Ladder match was great between them. On Heartbreak and Triumph I loved what Triple H said when the room went silent with him, Shawn, Vince, Shane, Gerald Brisco, and Earl was talking about giving Brett the shaft F Him, don’t want to get kicked off this site because its a great site to talk wrestling with all the fans of WWE DVDS. That was a little harsh but money wise Bret was better off because WWE during that time was more attitude with DX and Stone Cold running things during that time. I miss those days so much now we got a dumb computer making matches and Michael Cole sucking ass.
CJ, looks like you only read half of what I wrote. Yes it is wrong to refuse to do business, but Shawn is the one who REFUSED TO DO BUSINESS! He refused to drop the Title to Bret at Mania 13! Second of all, Bret had full creative control in his contract! And Vince is the one that gave it to him! So Bret had every right to refuse to lose to Shawn because Vince allowed Bret that right in the first place. As for the story of Vince trying to “protect his company”, that was the BS excuse he tried to use afterwards. Remember, there was no way Bret could show up on Nitro the night after Survivor Series because Bret was still under contract until mid December and Bret would’ve been sued for breach of contract. It’s amazing how people will just completely overlook the facts when it goes against the story they’ve been force-fed for the last 13 years by WWE.
You also don’t fuck over your fellow wrestlers. Vince McMahon wrote a lot of the rules in wrestling but so did Stu Hart. So if anyone knew the values and traditions of wrestling it was Bret and its because he stuck to wrestling traditions that things unfolded how they did. Vince McMahon has been a success largely BECAUSE he broke away from traditions. So its pretty bloody outrageous to say that. Yes you protect business, you prtoect the company, you protect yourself and you protect each other. Bret did nothing wrong. He just refused to lose to the man ‘who lays down for absolutelt nobody’ on principle because he did value the wrestling traditions. They just didnt trust him because he was leaving in a months time, whereas he trusted them. Trust is what wrestling is all about. That night the WWF broke all the rules. They pulled the trigger when they didnt need to simply because Vince McMahon was worried WCW was going to kill the WWF. So from that point of view they were trying to achieve a legitimate aim, but the means of achieving it was completely disproportionate. Especially when the justification was business pressure and just over a month later Mike Tyson comes in for more money than you can write down. Put simply, the WWF story is bullshit and re-rewriting history is wrong no matter how much you love Vince and his creations. The wwe progaganda machine reminds me of Big Brother in George Orwell’s Nineteen Eighty Four. Update history everyday and destroy all previous versions of the truth. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
@Steven, there is no such thing as PG-14. It’s just TV-14.
@LP1, You also never refuse to do business in wrestling. Bret didn’t want to job to Shawn. Yeah Shawn was a dick, but that doesn’t mean you still don’t do what was called for and drop the belt.
Steven I apologise, I didnt need to be rude. I think Shawn and Bret are the 2 best ever and neither of them ever had a bad match (I’m not including Bret’s return after his stroke and post concussion syndrome). You shouldnt apologise for being a fan of his because he’s incredible. I just think you could be a little more objective. But thats what would make this DVD so fascinating because there really are two sides to a lot of things that went down between them. I’ve always been a huge Bret fan and I got to meet him a couple of years ago. It was always a bit annoying that they didnt get along because I wanted to be a fan of both of them. I don’t think any other rivalry would be a good DVD concept because most of them were friends in real life, but Bret and Shawn had it all. Even a happy ending. So hopefully bret and shawn fans can ‘bury the hatchet’ with this DVD and hopefully it will set the record straight on a few things. A lot of people might be sick of hearing about it, but this is probably the ultimate DVD for me. Peace.
Who’s to say the Stone Cold-Rock rivalry DVD is out the window? Perhaps this is the beginning of a new DVD series. Austin-Rock could come out later on down the road, perhaps by the time Rock returns to face Cena at Mania next year.
For people saying the Bret-Shawn Survivor Series ’92 match hasn’t been released on DVD yet, uhh, the entire Survivor Series ’92 ppv was released on DVD in the Survivor Series Anthology! lol
Also, anyone defending Shawn in the Montreal screwjob either A)doesn’t know the real story or B)is believing WWE’s(Vince’s) twisted version of the truth.
Shawn Michaels was supposed to drop the WWF Title to Bret at Mania 13, but ended up with a *cough* “knee injury”. Then when Shawn returned later that year he flat out told Bret that he would never do the job for him. So Bret said “screw you then”. By the time Survivor Series came around Vince asked Bret to lose to Shawn and Bret told Vince that he’d lose the Title to anyone else on the roster except Shawn. Remember that Vince was the one who gave Bret full creative control in his contract to keep Bret from going to WCW in 1996. So Bret had every legal right to refuse losing to Shawn. Bret’s WWF contract didn’t expire until mid December 1997 and told Vince that he’d lose the Title to Austin, Taker or whoever at the December In Your House ppv(which turned out to be the DX ppv). Vince agreed with that. But then Shawn and HHH got in Vince’s ear and lobbied their way into getting Vince to screw Bret out of the belt.
The plan was for Shawn to get Bret in the sharpshooter and Bret would reverse it. Just before Shawn would tap out, DX would run down and break it up and the Hart Foundation would run down and it would end in a no contest. Of course we all know what ended up happening after that. Then Vince went on Raw and did that ridiculous interview where he said he did what he did to “protect his company” so Bret wouldn’t show up in Nitro with the Title the night after Survivor Series. LOL. Of course that was such a BS story since Bret legally couldn’t show up in WCW for another month due to his WWF contract. Plus Bret already agreed to drop the belt at a later date. There’s no defending Vince or Shawn in this. No matter how you try to spin it.
I have seen shoot interviews from both Bret and HBK. What else could this actually offer. Most of their matches are already on other dvds. This is a huge disappointment.
At @ Anonymous I’m not sorry for being a Shawn Michaels fan but you got to admit he’s never had a less than 5 star match against anyone, what’s wrong with the Wrestlemania 12 Iron Man match, he won his first WWE title, I guess you didn’t like when Rock or The Miz won there first title also.
looking faward to this one
If any match deserves to be repeated its that one. Its a masterclass to be studied.
Really not bothered about this one in the slightest, unless they come out and say it was all a work it’s just going to be the same stories they’ve both already told repeated over. Plus half a disc wasted on that god awful ironman match again.
Every time I come on here there is a guy called Steven who thinks Shawn Michaels could do no wrong. I think you’ve been brainwashed. Its very convenient to ignore that Shawn Michaels ‘didn’t do business’ earlier that year. Its in the past obviously, but I can certianly see there are two sides to this and in that sense its bigger than any other rivalry. They may as well make some money out of the bad feelings of the past. Turn a negative into a positive if you will.
Here are a few of their matches off the top of my head:
1. Singles match when they were still in The Rockers and Hart Foundation (wrestling challenge I think)
2. Coliseum video match in 1992 (U.S. Rampage 92)
3. Coliseum video match in 1994
4. Coliseum video Cage Match
5. Survivor Series 1992
6. Survivor Series 1993 family feud match
7. Wrestlemania XII Iron man match
8. Survivor series 1997
9. Bret Hart & Macho Man Randy Savage vs. Shawn Michaels & Ric Flair
10. Hart Foundation vs. Rockers (SNME 1990)
11. Hart Foundation vs. Rockers (MSG)
12. Hart Foundation vs. Rockers (Coliseum video, Wrestlefest 1990)
13. Hart Foundation vs. Rockers (Japan)
14. Hart Foundation vs. Rockers (SNME that never aired)
15. Coliseum video Ladder match
and you can bet your bottom dollar there are countless confronations, face to face interviews, promos etc. It wont be hard to fill up a few discs with some great stuff.
Thats amazing. I hated the idea of a rivalry DVD. But this was REAL so its a whole different thing and since these are the two greatest that there have ever been this DVD could have literally everything. Man I’m excited. I really hope that Austin / Rock idea is in the bin. They should really just do a new documentary DVD for each Austin and Rock. Especially since they are both working with wwe now.
Lol this is right up my ally
could be a greatest rivalries dvd and william both survivor series matches were released already on dvd with 97 being on Best of Confidential and 92 on Greatest Superstars of the 90’s
Talking about 97 and now i think about it so would be 92
Wow this will be epic
interview should be great and i would think they would put matchs on here so if im right its the first dvd release on there surviver series match if im correct
Just made a space on the shelf for this DVD already
I bet this will be a TV PG 14 release, with DX’s antics back in the day and the Hitman going crazy and there is no longer beef with them but I say there is still some problems with them, I wonder if they are friends like the Kliq.
This will be a great dvd and I’m 100% behind Shawn in the Screwjob, Bret didn’t do business. I wonder if the dvd will have HBK on commentary talking crap about Bret’s dad and where he threw the banana in Bret’s face way back in the time of the best DX 1997. I say Brett is excited for this dvd also. Bret was a good wrestler but for me I always liked wrestlers who had attitude and charisma, examples, HBK, Stone Cold, Rock, Hall and Nash, Triple H, Jeff Hardy, Batista, Cena, Macho Man, AJ Styles, and Randy Orton.
This is huge. I love the Austin/Rock rivalry but that doesn’t hold a candle to HBK/Hitman. Their drama was not only in-ring but also backstage behind the scenes. This DVD is going to be amazing.
maybe it’s more than one rivalry, like Hart/HBK on one disc and Rock/Austin on another?
something to see
when will it come out for sure
I WILL BE GLAD TO HAVE THE HBK\BRET RIVALRY DVD BUT I WAS REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO THE AUSTIN ROCK SET AS THIS IS WHEN I TRULY STARTED WATCHING WRESTLING HOPEFULLY WWE KEEPS THAT DVD IN THE WORKS OR GIVE IT AN EARLIER RELEASE DATE HERE IN THE US
If turns out to be true, sad to see Austin/Rock DVD go but quite frankly this is more juicy and the thought of in-depth sit down interviews with the two of them together sells it for me.
Sounds great. I can’t wait to hear the true stories of their relationship personally and professionally. I’m interested to hear their thoughts on some of the great matches they’ve had together and how their relationship backstage went to hate/hate….and of course stories about survivor series 1997. Also if they actually talk today or if their on screen makeup was kayfabe.
WOW!!! I would have loved to been a fly on the wall in that room when the cameras weren’t rolling Ross, HBK, Hitman there has to be some good stories being told in there.